{"id":981,"date":"2014-09-11T18:26:31","date_gmt":"2014-09-11T10:26:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/diyparadise.com\/w\/?p=981"},"modified":"2014-09-11T22:35:31","modified_gmt":"2014-09-11T14:35:31","slug":"cooking-spuds-study-spud-amps","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/diyparadise.com\/w\/cooking-spuds-study-spud-amps\/","title":{"rendered":"Love Affair with Spuds – 6E5P, 6C45Pi and 417A"},"content":{"rendered":"

This has been an emotional roller coaster. You know how a love affair can swing along the gamuts of emotions.<\/p>\n

Now imagine 3!<\/p>\n

Anyway, this article is supposedly\u00a0a continuation of A Purist’ Wet Dream<\/a>\u00a0and The Purist’ Wet Dream Gets Wetter<\/a>\u00a0but I got to change to a more pedestrian title as if I were to continue along\u00a0the same theme, it is actually bordering on obscenity…<\/p>\n

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\"spud<\/a><\/p>\n

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From left to right, 6E5P, Sovtek 6C45Pi and Western Electric 417A.<\/p>\n

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In case you are wondering, I have been enjoying my Purist’ Wet Dream with below schematic.<\/p>\n

Just a change of wiring to accommodate different tubes, and it’s all system go!<\/p>\n

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All 3 tubes run at 150V with 6E5P’s cathode at 3 Schottkies\u00a0level while 6C45Pi and 417A sat at 2 Schottkies. Of course, as the latter 2 tubes are triodes, there is no 120 ohm resistor between plate and g2.<\/p>\n

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Here is my unscientific, humble opinion\u00a0on its virtues.<\/p>\n

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6E5P<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tallest tube between all 3. I have ran it at 250V @40mA (very hot!) and also a much cooler 150V @15mA. The sonics didn’t change that much but the heat in the room did.<\/p>\n

Mids and highs were faultless but bass lacks a bit grunt. Lower midrange could do with a bit heft too.<\/p>\n

Wonderful tube but a bit willowy.<\/p>\n

Like Maria here.<\/p>\n

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6C45Pi<\/strong><\/p>\n

All this while, I have been too scared to use this tube. Reason being, I was scarred by some really horrendous sound I heard from this tube. Soul destroying, devoid of life… It was like attending a funeral.<\/p>\n

And not one system mind you, at least in 2 separate occasions, this tube made me depressed, asking myself “what the hell is this???”<\/p>\n

Looking back, I think it’s their choice of operating point as when ran at 10mA which I have here, she’s simply amazing! I never thought this tube could sound so good!<\/p>\n

Noise floor is a bit higher but the weakest point of 6E5P is 6C45Pi’s strength. Lower mids and Bass! Great for rock! Actually the lower mids and bass is a bit larger than life. Err, not that I’m complaining. This gives an energetic, uplifting feel to your music.<\/p>\n

In one sentence, Always exciting! Like Kate!<\/p>\n

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\"yeo's<\/a><\/p>\n

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WE 417A<\/strong><\/p>\n

Truth be told, I was having so much fun with Kate<\/del>, err 6C45Pi, that I was reluctant to try out 417A, the tiniest of the lot here.<\/p>\n

To make matters worse, until today, I have yet to have a chance to listen to a Western Electric tube. Yes, I’m an ignoramus.<\/p>\n

So is the famed sonics of WE a myth? Or plain\u00a0hyperbole? Would this be a continuation of my Thermionic Wet Dream or is it going to be a Thermionic Wet Blanket?<\/p>\n

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Once I tried her out… \u00a0OMG!\u00a0OMG!!\u00a0OMG!!!<\/strong><\/p>\n

Quieter than 6C45Pi, balanced, more refined (well, you could describe as cleaner, less distortion… take your pick)…<\/p>\n

In short, I could live with her!<\/p>\n

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\"hee<\/a><\/p>\n

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So what does this tell you?<\/strong><\/p>\n

My choice of women sucks?<\/p>\n

[toggle title=”What kind of idiot compares 3 types of tubes in an amp?”]Me of course![\/toggle]<\/p>\n

Who would have thought you could get 2 totally different type of sonics from one tube?<\/p>\n

WE tubes are gifts from the gods?<\/p>\n

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At the end of the day, I don’t care. All I know is whom I want to hang out with. Sorry, girls.<\/p>\n

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